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I had to laugh at the direction to leave certain items on the counter in case publishers wanted them for their personal use. And how are they meant to do that when the KH is closed? Lol. 😂
Lost in the fog
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2020-10-Publications Approved For Discard! (as of 2020-10-29)
by Atlantis in2020-10--publications approved for discard.. .
reply below and i'll meet you back at the pm breakroom for coffee and a link.. .
petra!.
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Pand€mi£ Contribution$
by snare&racket inhi everyone, hope all are well :).
just wondering, with all these zoom meetings and cancelled assemblies, just how the financial contribution system works in 2020?.
i obviously am wondering if it will have a huge impact on the wt org.. can someone kindly summarise how contributions are managed nowadays, both officially and anecdotally in kh's.. i was last attending around 2004, where there were x2 contribution boxes, the world wide work and kh fund.
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They set up a separate page on the jw(dot)org website to let people donate electronically to them. Here's the link to prove it.
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But you told us about those dates.
by Lost in the fog inyou couldn't make it up!
saw this wt quote on a friend's page.
it is from the awake magazine of 1993, march 22nd apparently.
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You couldn't make it up! Saw this WT quote on a friend's page. It is from the Awake magazine of 1993, March 22nd apparently. As you read it laugh and weep. The very last 4 words of the final sentence is a jaw dropper!
"Jehovah’s Witnesses, in their eagerness for Jesus’ second coming, have suggested dates that turned out to be incorrect. Because of this, some have called them false prophets. Never in these instances, however, did they presume to originate predictions ‘in the name of Jehovah.’ Never did they say, ‘These are the words of Jehovah.’ The Watchtower, the official journal of Jehovah’s Witnesses, has said: “We have not the gift of prophecy.” (January 1883, page 425) “Nor would we have our writings reverenced or regarded as infallible.” (December 15, 1896, page 306) The Watchtower has also said that the fact that some have Jehovah’s spirit “does not mean those now serving as Jehovah’s witnesses are inspired. It does not mean that the writings in this magazine The Watchtower are inspired and infallible and without mistakes.” (May 15, 1947, page 157) “The Watchtower does not claim to be inspired in its utterances, nor is it dogmatic.” (August 15, 1950, page 263)."
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Is Watchtower meant to be an actual shelter from reality
by ToyFish inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yciaw0m2-nqi'm a former member that has been out for the past few months and have been doing a lot of personal research.
i've been having mixed feelings about the gb whether or not their intentions are good or not.
the fact they have a protocol of moral lying through "theocratic warfare" very much turned me off from having anything to do with the org.
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Further to the excellent comments above I would add that the majority of witnesses put off their plans in this world for their hope of living in the new one.
Time and again you'll hear something like 'in the new world I will learn the guitar' - why not now? `I will learn how to paint' - what's stopping you from doing it now? 'In the new world I will go travelling and seeing different places' - why are you putting it off, go for it now!
I remember one circuit overseer in his talk saying that the world tells you to buy now, pay later; whereas Jehovah asks his people to pay now (time, energy, commitment) and he will reward them later. It was always to be done in the future.
It was only after leaving that I realised there was nothing stopping me from following my passions now, and it was so annoying to think that I had spent the previous 5 decades oblivious to that fact and wasted my time.
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The Myth of being "Spirit Appointed"
by BluesBrother inback in the first century we read that the apostles would "lay their hands" on someone and the holy spirit would be imparted to that one.
appointments of older men were made in this way - at that time.
in modern times the wts has claimed that their own elders ,min.
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Sadly I know of a few elders who genuinely believe they were appointed by divine provenance and that whatever rubbish comes out of their mouths should be heeded accordingly.
Worse still is the fact that certain R+F agree with the stupid belief. Either that or they are worried about disagreeing with said elders in case they are then accused of sinning against the holey spirit.
But what else can you expect from a man-made cult.
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2020-10-Publications Approved For Discard! (as of 2020-10-29)
by Atlantis in2020-10--publications approved for discard.. .
reply below and i'll meet you back at the pm breakroom for coffee and a link.. .
petra!.
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Lost in the fog
Can I have a copy please? And an espresso to go...
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I'm feeling cold
by Lost in the fog inwhen i was a jw i would look to the bible or the wt society to answer all of my problems.. now as an older person i get cold in the wintertime and have trouble getting warm down to bad circulation.
i found an answer in the bible at 1 kings 1:2, but i don't think my pimi wife will let me apply this bible principle.
lol.
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When I was a JW I would look to the Bible or the WT Society to answer all of my problems.
Now as an older person I get cold in the wintertime and have trouble getting warm down to bad circulation.
I found an answer in the Bible at 1 Kings 1:2, but I don't think my PIMI wife will let me apply this Bible principle. Lol.
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The Society and 1975.
by Lost in the fog instumbled upon this article - not that the wt society ever highlighted the date of 1975, but that was brothers running ahead... .
w68 8/15 pp.
494-501. https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1968602#h=1:0 .
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Stumbled upon this article - not that the WT Society ever highlighted the date of 1975, but that was brothers running ahead...
w68 8/15 pp. 494-501
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How do you switch off the thoughts of being raised JW and feelings of anger
by Zeds Dead inraised as a jo blow and married into it.
37 years in it and now last 7 years out of it which feels great.. have memories of being a kid in school in the uk and just hating everything about being the jw kid.
bullied, embarrassed in front of others and self-esteem went into the toilet.wished i was born into a different family.. what angers me is the messaging i would receive at home when i talked about being bullied.
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I feel your pain my friend.
Similar story to you and in school in the UK I felt like a lone person wandering around a pride of lions on a daily basis. Would have loved to have gone on to uni but even back then in the 70s that was a big no-no.
It is difficult when other siblings are still in, and you are out. Because you try not to get angry with them when you're angry with the WT Society even when your siblings spout their JW mumbo-jumbo to you. Smile, nod, ignore.
It took me a long time to accumulate new friends who are not JWs. We can talk about everything from politics to mental health to celebrations. It does not totally wipe out the feelings you describe, but most of the time I find that I don't even think about the JW part of my life anymore.
You will move on and you will be happier for it.